Frequently Asked Questions

 

          Solar Pool Questions


1. Is there any maintenance on the solar system?
2. Can my homeowners association refuse it?
3. Will I lose heat at night with solar?
4. What is the potential of losing the system in a hurricane?
5. How much longer can I (really) swim in my pool with solar?
6. Will solar heat my pool in December, January or early February?
7. Why don't we see a lot more of it around?
 

         Solar Electric & Hot Water Questions


1. Is it possible to run out of hot water?
2. What are the Warranties?
3. Can these collectors be used to heat the swimming pool also?
4. What is the payback period for a solar hot water system in Orlando?
5. Will I have hot water during cold weather?
6. Why are solar electric systems becoming more practical?
7. Why don't we see a lot more of it around?

 
         Tankless Water Heater Questions


1. How does a tankless water heater compare to a solar water heater?


 

          Pool Answers

1. Is there any maintenance on the solar system?

The collectors are maintenance free. The controls that regulate the temperature can be either automatic or manual. On a manual operation, installed is a 3 way valve that is only necessary to turn off when the pool temperature reaches a desired temperature. From the end of October to mid April you will not need to operate this valve since pool water temperatures will not exceed water temps. that reach too warm. In May and June, maybe every 2 weeks adjust the valve (by-pass the solar) when it reaches your comfort level, however in most cases July-mid Sept. you will leave the 3 way valve in by-pass mode. It usually requires 4 or 5 times a year to adjust this valve.

Automatic operation requires setting a pre-set temperature and feeds a signal to a motorized valve operated by two sensors (one on the roof- another reads current pool water temp.)  Once you program your desired temperature, walk away and its maintained.
 

2. Can my homeowners association refuse it?

In short NO, because Florida Statue 163.04 allows the use of renewable resources a.k.a. solar applications and overrides deed restrictions and building codes not exceeding 3 stories in height.
 

3. Will I lose heat at night with solar?

Temperatures normally remain above 65 degrees at night April-October, a solar blanket is not necessary under these conditions, and your warm pool will remain consistent morning and evening, however below these temperatures November-March a cover is necessary because convection heat losses will occur. The same applies to a heat pump or gas, without the cover, you just pay more to make up the difference.
 

4. What is the potential of losing the system in a hurricane?

The solar system we install has been tested up to 140 mph winds, because the patented    hardware allows them to be anchored to the truss. As a result no solar systems in the past 3 hurricanes were lost.

 

5. How much longer can I (really) swim in my pool with solar?

This is going to vary because each individual has their own version of an ideal temperature.

For starters, when the solar system is sized properly, your pool should be above 80 degrees from the end of February until the end of November (refer to question #3).

If you choose not to use the cover in winter, you can still double your swimming season, on a screened enclosed pool or triple your swim season with the use of the cover.  A typical screened enclosed pool's natural swimming season of 80 degrees and above is from June-September.  A typical unscreened pool's temperature of 80 degrees and above is from early May through mid October.  It might seem too warm, however its 13 degrees below your body's temperature covering every pour on your skin.  An 85 degree air temperature feels different because your body's exchange of heat isn't occurring the exact same way.

Many pools struggle to reach even 82 degrees in summer, because of the position of the pool related to shading from trees, house direction, extra convection losses from being near a pond or lake or on open field with no wind break.

 

6. Will solar heat my pool in December, January or early February?

In December of 2007 many of our customers experienced 85 degree Solar heated pool water.  That year we had a warmer December than usual.  We call December through February (bonus months), because there will be periods of time when your pool will be in the 80s....its just not going to be consistently in the 80s all the time in those 3 months.

A majority of people feel a low desire to swim when they have to put on a light jacket to go outside.  For kids who are generally immune to cold water, the temperature of the pool water is nearly 12 degrees warmer in winter under a Solar heated pool as opposed to the natural season.  In other words, it could be most of the year for kids.  If you have a gas heater for the spa or a heat pump all you need is a few more degrees without a costly expenditure.  This can be a comforting thought for that unexpected company that shows up at that time of year.

 

7. Why don't we see a lot more of it around?

  • Most hot water heaters are installed by builders who are more concerned with construction costs than with future utility bills.  A conventional electric water heater costs less to install than Solar.

  • The general public's lack of awareness on how it works.  Its just human nature to steer away from things we don't fully understand.

  • Lower electric rates in the (past) combined with No Rebates or incentives made for longer payback times.

  • Add the old adage: ("If its not broke, don't fix it.") and the average conventional water heater lasts 13 years.

All of this is changing and rapidly, with much higher electric rates and (limited) time government Rebates and incentives, (as electric rates continue to increase, rebates for this type of solar application will not be as necessary).  People through friends and other connections will find it makes sense.

If you choose to exchange or trade nearly 30% (*electric hot water heating costs) of your monthly electric bill costs for a (Solar Hot Water Heating System) the payback is just a few short years.  Then the system will continue to generate almost a 30% return on your money every year thereafter....and even the stock market isn't that consistent.  (That's real energy security!) (No more $$ concerns about long hot showers.)


          Hot Water Answers

1. Is it possible to run out of hot water?

No, and this is why:
Solar radiation called (insolation) can be affected by cloudy weather and fluctuations in intensity following seasonal changes with the position of the sun in the sky.  Solar water heating systems are usually designed to collect and store a full 24 hours or more energy to meet hot water demands.  Also the Solar Hot Water heating system's storage tank is equipped with a back-up electric heating element to meet unusually high demand or extended periods of cloudy or rainy days.


2. What are the Warranties?


The collectors carry a 10-year parts & labor coverage, while the tank carries a 5 year parts & labor coverage.  Many systems have been in full operation for over 30 years.


3. Can these collectors be used to heat the swimming pool also?


No, because the copper oxides in the domestic systems will mix with fluctuating pool chemistry and can have a harmful effect on pool finishes.

 


4. What is the payback period for a solar hot water system in Orlando?


The payback period varies depending on the brand, (BTU) output, model and type of system you invest in.  The average payback period compared to electrical heating is around 3 to 5 years.  Just paying your monthly electric bill will be transferring 1/3rd of your total bill towards an investment on your home, something your power company
will never do.

 

5. Will I have hot water during cold weather?

YES!  Solar water heating collectors typically deliver excellent performance in Florida during cold weather, because the sky is very clear during winter cold fronts and the low-iron tempered plating intensifies heat into the highly insulated solar collector and prevents it from escaping.  (This is why there are so many in Austria and other climates similar to it.)

 

6. Why are solar electric systems becoming more practical?
It’s the combination of more frequent rate increases by utility companies, combined with over production of solar modules by manufacturers. This has resulted in temporary and significant price decreases. Once this glut has stabilized... prices will adjust and moderate. We are in a good period where State rebates and Federal incentives are allowing a better than expected return on the investment.

 

7. Why don't we see a lot more of it around?

  • Most hot water heaters are installed by builders who are more concerned with construction costs than with future utility bills.  A conventional electric water heater costs less to install than Solar.

  • The general public's lack of awareness on how it works.  Its just human nature to steer away from things we don't fully understand.

  • Lower electric rates in the (past) combined with No Rebates or incentives made for longer payback times.

  • Add the old adage: ("If its not broke, don't fix it.") and the average conventional water heater lasts 13 years.

All of this is changing and rapidly, with much higher electric rates and (limited) time government Rebates and incentives, (as electric rates continue to increase, rebates for this type of solar application will not be as necessary).  People through friends and other connections will find it makes sense.

If you choose to exchange or trade nearly 30% (*electric hot water heating costs) of your monthly electric bill costs for a (Solar Hot Water Heating System) the payback is just a few short years.  Then the system will continue to generate almost a 30% return on your money every year thereafter....and even the stock market isn't that consistent.  (That's real energy security!) (No more $$ concerns about long hot showers.)

 


          Tankless Water Heater Answers

1. How does a tankless water heater compare to a solar water heater?

The water you use still has to be heated.  The amount of energy required to heat a gallon of water to certain a temperature does not change just because its being heated at a faster rate.

The tankless water heater only eliminates standby losses of water sitting in the storage tank awaiting use.  Since the element only comes on approximately 5 minutes out of every hour to maintain that water temperature, the tankless water heater is only about 10 to 20 percent less expensive to operate than a conventional electric water heater.

And tankless water heaters come with drawbacks, (According to the U.S. Department of Energy) "Sometimes....even the largest, gas fired model cannot supply enough hot water for simultaneous....multiple uses....taking a shower and running the dishwater at the same time can stretch a (tankless) water heater to its limit".  Filling up a soaking tub is another example.

Solar water heaters can provide all the benefits of tankless water heaters, but eliminate up to 90% of your water heating costs compared to a maximum of 20% with tankless.

 

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